Ideas for the campaign

[Cowboy]

alright guys. Post stuff here. lemme know what kinda boards features you might like, and lets talk what we want to have happen here

[Blane]

K, well the Start date seems to be heading towards Mid May. We may as well make it June 1st. So far we have thrown out the idea of banners (see General's Compendium) to be 2250pts. We have also decided to try the simplest version of the campaigns in the book; not sure which chapter its in, but I think its the first example.

Things we need:

-Everyone needs a copy of the Compendium PDF. USB keys are the best way IMO. (Auer has one I believe)

-A decision on what map is to be used; Hexs? Real map divided into territories? Map in the book?

-The conditions of victory, be it objective-based or Time-based. If Time-based, how long?

-The creation of House-Rules if necessary. Examples would maybe be No Alliance breaking during games or something like that.

Thats what I got so far.

Blane

[Cowboy]

I personally am in favour of using a real map. I think it's more flavourful than a hex map. As for maps in the book, I'm ok with that, or just snagging one of the various maps out of the rulebooks/codicies.

[ftime]

I say we play 'Border Princes' as presented in the following chapter and use that map - maybe get a nice copy made for real life, and photoshop a version for the web. I personally dislike hex maps

I like 2250pts myself, I think anything under 2k points is too small, but it'll limit the number of battles fought at over 3k.

As for a copy: did the link I posted in the facebook group not work?

As for victory conditions, since it's our first campaign (and probably a trial version for a later more in-depth?) I would suggest we make it time based - 20 turns? That's over 20 weeks minimum, which thinking about it now, is really long if turns are weekly/bi-monthly.

Another option is first to conquer x number of territories, or capture x number of HQ's (is what is suggested in in the book for those who don't have a current copy at hand).

As for allies, I say leave that be up to the players, real diplomacy/treachery/backstabbing is always a nice spice to things. If we follow the allies chart of not, that's up to be determined.

I think house rules will be required, especially for OK. I'm also not crazy on special characters (mainly thorek and his anvil.. sorry will hehe) so we might want to decided if we let those enter play. If we do, I would strongly push for them being restricted to a single banner, and thus cannot be used in fights that the banner is not involved in.

As for June, I think that's a bit too far away; we don't want to start losing interest. Plus, most ppl like to take some form of vacation mid-end of the summer, which might possibly slow down things abit. I see no reason why we don't hit this off with a bang with the arrival of May unless someone would be busy and unable to be around.

In time, I'll try to maybe get a decent site up with a proper content manager installed. But right now I'm bogged down in group projects. Lucky for me I only have 2 final exams, so I should have quite a bit of free time in April.

[Blane]

Mid May seems to fit with everyone. It shall be so. The 15th, we start.

[stonebrow]

Mid May is fine with me.

I'll check out the fine details of the simple campaign in the general's compendium book and let you guys know if i think some things should be changed or not. From what I read so far though it seems to be fine.

As to the limits on special characters I don't mind putting a limit on Thorek as partytime so gently put it (f*g! ) but if I'm to limit my army from using special characters I dont want to see any Teclis or taliman of nurgle or any of that nuts either.

If you guys want big real maps I know a nice spot to get stuff printed for pretty cheap. I've also been scanning the living hell out of the Old World Maps so if you guys want more in depth maps I have some. I'm also gonna try to put all the maps I have together on computer so that I have all the details of the regions but on a full world map. I'll let you guys know how its coming along.

[shoe]

Mid May sounds great!
I'm also in favour of real maps instead of hex maps.

Also ftime, your link to the compendium does work, I downloaded it yesterday. Thanks! I just haven't read it yet, it's HUGE.

[ftime]

yeah, 180pg is alot.. but that book has everything! For the campaign, there's really only about 40 pages with lots of nice big pictures I suggest ppl read the Boarded prince adaptation, would just make things easier for a first run at this.

As for special toons: yet it was either to all or none. I just pointed out thorek cause he the only real OTT character I've come across. I wouldn't mind them in the game, but then I'd prefer they were restricted to a single banner. After all, campaigns are meant to bring out fantasy's bad boys

[Cowboy]

I could see the special character limited to a single banner thing. Like one special character max per banner?

[Blane]

Actually, I would rather have special characters be on a agreement basis. So if your going to use a special character that is invasive (Teclis, Tyrion, Thorek, Morghur, Taliman, skulltaker, and maybe a few others) then you should ask the guy your fighting if its ok and that person can say: Nah Id rather ya didnt.

Stressing the fact that you only need to do this if the character is invasive. Otherwise, just let the guy know. ''Hey, Im using Korhil''.

How bout that?

[Cowboy]

Honestly, I'm fine with either.

[stonebrow]

Like I said earlier, i think it would be best to just not play with special characters at all. No special favor for certain or asking for permission, either we play with all of em or we don't play with any of them.

[ftime]

Mar 5, 2009 20:02:35 GMT -5 Cowboy said:

I could see the special character limited to a single banner thing. Like one special character max per banner?

um.. maybe no limit to the number of characters per banner, but most importantly x character is restricted to your y banner. Thus after the first battle, ppl will know in which banner they lie (if you can get the info from the opposing player that is hehe), and thus can use this knowledge when preparing to encounter/avoid that banner. After all, lists are not set to a banner, so you can tailor as much as you want: only the SC would be a fixed 'asset'.

This might bring some interesting elements to the campaign.

[shoe]

I dunno, I would say max one SC who "must be the general" per banner. Other than that, inform your opponent before the game. If they'd rather not, work out something agreable. Since we're all friends here we needn't worry about hard and fast rules, and checks and balances against cheating.

Also, what would people think of a master list for armies (say 11,000 points) and having it whittled down if you lose. Or is that biting off too much for the first campaign?

[stonebrow]

Sounds like a bit too many "ifs" and "maybes" to me for the special characters. Just don't play with them. Its no big deal, we all have access to lords and heroes, just make up your own. No need for the special ones.